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Re: [SLUG] Re: Android-based smartphones - any drawbacks

Thanks for all the serious feedback, esp. Voytek for battery life discussion and list of sysadmin apps, also Edwin. Sounds like something like Galaxy Nexus with Cyanogen will allow me to seriously experiment - I learned Linux by repairing messes I had made of my system by customizations & mixing stock distro with Linux from scratch. Android seems to offer what I do with Linux - mix and match best of breed / what works best apps, as Patrick mentions with Browsers, customise config options etc. i.e. personalising my OS. I'm in a similar position to what Ken mentions re doctors needing an IPhone if they want to use the MIMS app, but apparently medicos are buying Androids nevertheless - libraries I support will be developing an IPhone app to access their catalog... maybe I can get an Android version going. If I was 30 years younger then Marghanita's evidence would have been crucial.
On 02/09/12 17:00, Patrick Elliott-Brennan wrote:
Rod wrote:
I originally asked whether there was any important functionality that
Android-based phones lacked compared to the competition, and whether they
struggled with any file formats. I then added that this appeared to me to
be an issue of available apps and requested confirmation or otherwise of
this assumption - the inference I intended was that I assumed that any such
issues would not be a function of the operating systems themselves but
rather a function of what apps had been written and what they could do.
Rather than actually address the questions posters responded with clumsy
sarcasm, recast the questions in terms of their pet hobbyhorses and
wandered off into moral philosophy. Closest we got was some facts about
techniques for extending battery life, which is important and relevant, but
I still don't know how Android compares in this area to the competition.

Fair enough, Rod. Drifting off the subject...

From what I know of those with iPhones (I don't have one, I've got a
Samsung Galaxy S2)) , when we compare phones there's little different in
the way of applications and thus general, everyday user functionality. I
think, as Ken commented, there can be circumstances in which something is
only available for iOS (MIMS, as Ken mentioned).

The friends who have iPhone 4's have complained about battery life but in
many ways this is the consequence of these devices have such a large range
of capabilities (web browsing, applications for games and sites, taking
photos, listening to music or watching movies etc). For examle, the  S2
really needs something like Juice Defender to improve it's battery life,
which is not great when compared to my Nokia N95. I can get more than 24
hours if I stop all the automatic synching and endless search for wireless
networks. My N95 would give me a couple of days.

I would imagine it would come down to whether there was a specific
capability you wanted or needed. For example, my Nokia N8 took the best
photos and video of any mobile phone out there. There is daylight between
it and the next on the list...take your choice.

Given your comment in relation to hardware/OS v applications, I'm not aware
of any statistics in relation to people jailbreaking their iPhones but my
understanding is that people do so because of the limitations of the OS as
installed. People also mod Android phones (eg. Cyanogen mods) to provide
options which don't exist with the stock install. I've not explored this in
any detail so am of no use :)

My experience of the browser on stock iPhones is that it's pretty much
dreadful. Highly inflexible and difficult to navigate. My theory about the
rise of apps in the iOS world is that the dreadful browser on the iPhone
has meant that you really do need a separate app to make accessing
information or services an imperative.

On my Android phone I have a few different browsers (Tor, Firefox, stock,
Dolphin and Opera mini) which generally all work well, but on ocassions
each has something or does something better than one of the others. For
instance, the Blogger app is not as good as using a browser (eg. Firefox)
which has been set to 'desktop' mode. Similary, the Google+ app is quite
good but it doesn't render .gif's if someone has used them as part of a

I know this is not a particulary technical reply, but I hope it helps all
the same.