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Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?
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- Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptops with Linux pre-installed?
- From: Peter Abbott <abbottp_c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:40:33 +1000
I bought one of Pioneer's higher range laptops in May 2006. At this
stage Pioneer sold with or without an MS operating system & like you I
refused to pay the tax. If memory serves me correctly it was called a
Dreambook and has a 64 bit AMD cpu, 1G of ram (since upgraded to 2G), a
17" screen and an Atheros chipset wifi card. It is actually a rebadged
Taiwanese Clevo D470K.
I have had absolutely no problems with it to date. I run Fedora 10
currently. It's main negatives being it's weight (but it is a 17") and
short battery life (about 2 hrs). I mainly use it connected to the mains
Hope this helps.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not sure about the former. -Albert Einstein-
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 08:42 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> Meijer, Luke wrote:
> > It is obvious you want something that you know you cant get.
> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
> one persists to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man."
> -- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
> Yep, i am an an unreasonable man. Me being an unreasonable man lead
> me to start to use Linux in 1995, starting two open source projects
> (at least one of which I'm sure you have installed on your machine)
> and maintaining them to this day. It also resulted in my getting
> a reasonably well paid job at a small high tech startup where at
> least 95% of my work is Linux related development.
> While we as Linux users put up with the status quo we will continue
> to be rode rough-shod over by microsoft and the companies like Dell
> and HP who do under the table deals with them. These deals are what
> is keeping microsoft where it is and preventing the spread of Linux.
> > I was in the exact same situation with my Dell XPS 1330 purchase
> > as Ubuntu was an option for US Dell customers only.
> So why the fsck can't people in this global backwater get the same
> I know of at least one survey which showed that Australia has a
> larger number of Linux and Free Software developers per head of
> population than any other country in the world.
> > I chose to go ahead and accept the ~$100 MS tax and build it with
> > Linux the same day it arrived.
> Yep, you and the millions of other people who did this help microsoft
> fund the SCO debacle and ramming its broken standard thru ISO, in the
> process breaking ISO. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
> > For someone who's time is so valuable and wants to drop ~$2000K
> > on something 'high end' I really think $100 is not a lot of money
> > for piece of mind on guaranteed driver support.
> You're an "Open Source" kinda guy aren't you? Well I'm much more
> in the "Free Software" camp.
> > It just seems from your responses that you are already aware of
> > the choices and this is more of a chance to 'vent' rather than a
> > request for help.
> First, you obviously don't understand my motivations. Secondly,
> I have found one single supplier of laptops (other than netbooks)
> with Linux pre-installed, Pioneer Computers:
> That is not a huge choice. Remeber, I chose Linux. I like choice.
> I'd like to have two or three companies to chose from. I don't
> think that is unreasonable.
> Erik de Castro Lopo