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- Subject: Re: [SLUG] Re: Snakes and Rubies?
- From: nornagon <nornagon@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 18:41:15 +1000
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On 5/24/06, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 03:45:26PM +1000, nornagon wrote:
> Python and Ruby are in many ways very similar.
Where does this idea come from? Perl and Ruby are much closer, in my mind
Well, yes - perl and ruby are similar. Because ruby draws on perl for
many of its concepts. Note that I didn't say "python and ruby are
closer than perl and ruby", though. :)
-- there's a clear flow of ideas from one to the other. Yes, you can do
most of the same things in both languages, but that's not a big thing --
ultimately you can make the same comparison between most pairs of languages.
There's lots of things that are tricky in Python that are trivial in Ruby,
and I assume there's something that's hard in Ruby that's easy in Python.
> bloodlust for the Other Kind. However, having a Snakes and Rubies
> group would bring the two groups together in a (hopefully) peaceful
> way, and lead to civil discussions and productive conversations.
In fact, I can think of few things *worse* than an S&R meeting -- it'd either
be inflammatory sniping about the percieved or actual deficiencies in each
other's languages, or anaemic acknowledgement of the other's virtues.
Neither sounds like a fun way to spend an evening to me.
Aw, come on, flamewars are fun <g>
> Codefests for code. S&R for scripting. That's what SIGs are all about.
Because Ruby and Python are the only two possible languages for scripting?
Personally, I think the general OSDC-style evening would probably be best --
especially if we can get some interesting talks on niche languages (or the
term I heard today -- "stretch languages") to get people interested in
what else is out there.
Once again, why subvert the infrastructure already in place? Codefests ftw.
I do like your idea about stretch languages, though... I'd love to get
someone talking about smalltalk or ocaml next codefest. :)
- Jeremy Apthorp