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Re: [SLUG] graduate programmers
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- Subject: Re: [SLUG] graduate programmers
- From: O Plameras <oscarp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:52:16 +1100
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Ken Foskey wrote:
On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 14:38 +1100, O Plameras wrote:
For $25,000 stipend (or salary) per year one could continue University
and earn a Ph.D.
You are talking apples and potatoes. I gave some ranges based on
knowledge of the applicant, you have picked only the smallest amount
and then challenged that with what a high achiever can get on a
scholarship. Talk about skewing the discussion.
The point here is $25,000 for graduates as initial salary offer is low.
It will not afford much of what one considers standard of living for a
much more afford a mortgage.
A year-12 high school graduate begins at that salary level maybe more.
Certainly, a Uni graduate is worth more than that.
I know for a fact that some Uni graduates start as programmers (perl for
at more than twice $25,000. And companies offering this sort of pay gets
the top 30 percent
of the available graduates out there. If you pay 'peanuts' you get
premium and you get extra.
I do not understand why a point of view can be a wrong signal. And how
We give poor signals to the grads that ask us because we consider
ourselves as examples. How many involved in slug would you consider as
coming out of Uni as 'average' with a very low pass? Most of the SLUG
Unix students would get hired in the 'industry experience' range not
are saying ourselves as examples.
I do not know how many in Slugs. But I do not underestimate the
abilities of Uni graduates
or anyone including those who have not yet completed UNI.
I tried to show that there is not one amount but a range based upon
I do not dispute your post.
I am putting forward a point of view; only one from many. Yours is one