[SLUG] Re: Linux Printing

[jam@xxxxxxxxx]

Hi

But the peas-n-chips cost. A Kysoera packet of black powder cost $150
and should cost $50. So no drum = slight advantage (political reasons)
and woe-is-me my FS1010 has started to leave marks on the paper after
10,000 pages. So (I hope not) a new drum after 10K pages and the TCOs
are all out the window

James

> Thanks Richard.
> 
> I see you have a long-term view of the cost advantages. Probably a 
> little too long term for me, but I accept that it is a view appropriate 
> for a business environment where it can be written off.  I would hope to 
> be replacing my printer with something better/cheaper (new technology 
> and destined to include colour) much sooner. My Brother HL1430 yields an 
> estimated 5000 copies for about the same price as the toner costs you 
> mention and includes a new drum at the same time. The printer is 
> currently selling around the $200 mark. It is fast and delivers top 
> quality prints. I recommend it as a cheap way into laser printing.
> 
> John.
> 
> Richard wrote:
> 
> > Kyocera use a Ceramic drum that lasts 100,000 pages and the 
> > replacement cost is about the same as a new machine.
> >
> > If you look at the Brother 5140 ( $350ex new) the new drum that only 
> > lasts 20,000 pages costs $189->$212, and the carts are about the same 
> > price as the Kyocera.
> >
> > Simple math shows the $320ex Kyocera FS-820 with it 100,000 page life 
> > drum totally massacres the TCO of the Brother printer over a 5 years 
> > period (take me 8 years to output 100,000 pages).
> >
> > Each cart does 6,000 pages, prices vary  New $119ex Refill $77 ( same 
> > toner as a FS-1010/20)
> >
> > And no HP are not much better either, in some cases worse.
> >
> > The so called sub $200 models are great if your not printing much but 
> > for a small office there the most expensive option, with there small 
> > toner carts and  drums that don't last long (usually the cart and drum 
> > are one unit only putting out 1,000->2,000 pages).
> >
> > One thing I must admit when I ordered the Kyocera FS-820, I thought it 
> > would be rather small going by the picture but its actually a decent 
> > sized printer with a rather spacious paper tray. Its also anything but 
> > slow and doesn't output pages that have that slight bend in them like 
> > many laser printers do. Also for those with Apple laptops there is a 
> > firewire port on the back next to the standard Parallel connector.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 08:21 +1000, John Gibbons wrote:
> >
> >>Sounds like a great deal and much cheaper to run than my Brother HL1430 
> >>which is a nice little machine. Can the drum/toner be replaced with a 
> >>new one? Cost?