Re: [SLUG] Windows 2003 + VS.NET 2003

[Dave Airlie <airlied@xxxxxxxxx>]

>
> I found some of the features very interesting - like built-in version
> control so you can roll back to previous versions of any file for
> instance (I believe VMS had this?)


>
> The big one though is the IDE. The sheer size and amount of stuff in
> there is mind boggling. Quite impressive - in C# one of the
> demonstrators made a blogging system, live, in about 50 lines of code.
>
> The overwhelming impression I walked away with was "Linux can do all
> that", but it's not presented in a package that is as easy to use, as
> elegantly designed, and that (more or less) works out of the box.
>

you've seen a carefully crafted demo, the biggest issue I've always had
with Windows and will probably always have, is when it is working it can
be quite useful and if you follow all the MS rules.. but when it stops
working or can't do what you want, your screwed, and MS won't help you for
less than a lot of money... so did he show you the BLOG getting hit by a
Slammer like virus or scaling to a number of ASP servers that hang up and
need rebooting every two days?? I think not..

 > E.g. Perl could probably match that blogging system no
worries, but
> does it have a nice IDE where you can drag a database table into your
> source code to make customised adapters for it, or a built-in HTML
> editor? Plus you'd probably have to download a buckload of stuff from
> CPAN, and then you'd have to pay ActiveState for an editor that has
> intellisense ...

I do agree that Linux can do all that, and it is missing the packaging for
it but the packaging while making things easier also abstracts away alot
of things...so when something goes wrong you've no idea how any of it
works or hangs together, it also allow people with little qualification to
run systems in-securely and not probably configured as they've no idea
about anything other than the tick-box and pull down menu MS supplies
them, when the real fix lies deep in the registry...

Dave.
rambling right back at ya :-)

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David Airlie, Software Engineer
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