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Re: [SLUG] apt-get weirdness lately
- To: Jeff Waugh <jdub@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [SLUG] apt-get weirdness lately
- From: Mike MacCana <mikem@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu Mar 27 17:31:01 2003
- Cc: slug@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 12:18, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who="Mike MacCana">
> > I find most people who bitch and moan about Red Hat (or Linux, as RPM is
> > the standard packaging format for that OS).
> This is inaccurate, and you've said it before.
No it is not. I think you've just chosen to interpret it inaccurately.
As you may have gathered, by Linux, I mean the LSB (not `random
collection of software' or the Linux kernel).
> To clarify, the RPM format was chosen as the standard format for LSB
> packages, rather than as the "standard packaging format for Linux". The LSB
> makes it very clear that a distro (or operating system - Solaris x86 could
> well be LSB compliant one day) may use whatever packaging system it wants,
> but to be LSB compliant, LSB packages must install and work regardless.
Indeed. A distro may use whatever packaging format it wants for its own
packages, but *must* be capable of installing LSB packages, which will
be packaged in RPM, the version of which is determined by the latest
release of the Maximum RPM book.
Of course, the ability of those packages to integrate with the rest of
the system is fairly limited if they're turned into dumb archives by a
program such as alien, which, when run on an rpm based system, will turn
rpm into effectively dumb archives in dpkg format - having no dependency
information whatsoever and removing the purpose of having a packaging
system in the first place.
> Subtle, but important for an accurate reading of the LSB and what it
Which has been done. You don't seem to be saying anything different than
what I am.
Mike MacCana Consultant RHCE, MCSE, MCP+I
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