RE: [SLUG] DNS BIND: what's happen....?

["Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP" <Christopher.Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with you Jill

Having used Solaris version 2.6 only, I would like to see the ability to
change the defaultrouter and a few more settings in admintool

And as a general GUI setup thing for whichever platform.  It is great to be
able to do it in one program but it would be good to advise which file is
being edited.

Linuxconf is good, but it hides which file is being modified, so you can go
and modify the file manually too...

--> 
Christopher Booth 




-----Original Message-----
From: Jill Rowling [mailto:Rowling@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 1:08 PM
To: slug@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [SLUG] DNS BIND: what's happen....?


There is something more of an issue with usability here that goes beyond the
choice as to whether to use a GUI or not.

On, say Solaris, I can use the GUI "admintool" or I can manually edit the
files.
If I use the GUI, the files get altered the way I expect.
If I manually edit the files, they get altered the way I expect.
Either way, I know what's happening.
Now if I use the GUI on a Linux distro, for a start every distro has its own
way of doing things so there is a different GUI, and secondly some of them
keep an (IRIX-like) master config file just to confuse the issue.
I am starting to think that master config files are a Very Bad Idea.
NT uses a registry, which is the same thing, even worse, like a master
config file on steroids.
I much prefer the simplicity of putting all the configurations for things in
separate /etc files, with the GUI doing the Solaris-like instant lookup when
it runs, rather than the Irix-like (or SuSE-like) fidget with the master
config files.
That way the poor sysadmin who has to look after several different operating
systems can choose how they want to set things up. And Mr or Mrs User will
be none the wiser.

I realise master config files are a joy for those who use only one system
EVER in their life, and like to keep things all in one spot, but it's not
really portable.

There you go, flame away!

Regards,

Jill.

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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 8:44
> To: Martin
> Cc: slug@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] DNS BIND: what's happen....?
> 
> 
> Martin was once rumoured to have said:
> > $author = "Jamie Wilkinson" ;
> > > bind itself reads the configuration; surely a 
> configuration tool can be
> > > written to also parse the entire configuration and allow 
> a user to change
> > > this very same *existing* configuration.
> > > 
> > > This isn't a distro war.  It's a comment on usability.
> > 
> > And a point well made.
> > 
> > The "don't use redhat" comment might have been trying to 
> convey the same
> > point, but I don't think it was much of a success.
> 
> Yes, the comment was inspired by usability. I do not like being forced
> into using some pointy clicky tool that the vendor has provided when
> manual configuration is easier for me.
> 
> There is a fairly wide choice of distros availible (as well as
> alternatives to linux), and if the one you're using doesn't do the job
> you feel it should, or lacks the usability you demand, find something
> else.
> 
> Afterall, isn't this why we're all linux users in the first place?
> 
> C.
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