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Re: [SLUG] [OT] Debian Flame on LWN
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- Subject: Re: [SLUG] [OT] Debian Flame on LWN
- From: Jeff Waugh <jdub@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed Oct 4 00:44:54 2000
- Cc: Chuck Dale <bug@xxxxxxxxx>
- User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
> Chuck Dale wrote:
> I would prefer to upgrade because there was a feature I needed in the
> new release rather than because the version I'm running had been
> "superceded". *This* would have to be the "Microsoftian" lie, that you
> need to upgrade just because there's a new version.
Look at slink. Look at potato. They're not Windows 98 -> Windows 98 SE.
In this case, you're doing yourself a disservice by not upgrading. The
amount of new features and software alone is worth the upgrade, but also the
fact that with your upgrade, comes support.
I strongly doubt that the upstream authors of the software in slink are
supporting such old versions. Whilst the adage, "upgrade only when you must"
is good to live by, you have to balance it with reality.
> It's been out Two Months and it's superceded??
> No matter how good Debian is, there are still going to be less problems
> introduced by not upgrading than by upgrading.
Always, or for small values thereof?
> Yet I found more and more people running even older versions that
> were still extremely stable and secure. They released security
> vulnerabilities and that was the only necessary upgrade.
This is exactly what you get with Debian stable (currently potato). slink is
getting *very* long in the tooth now, and the amount of work required to
support it - think *backpatching* for pete's sake! - is worth sacrificing
for work on the stable release, which, given the way Debian works, is what
users *ought* to be running.
"In the red corner we have an old release, mostly unsupported by it's
upstream authors, containing software so lacking in features compared to
today's releases it's laughable.
"In the blue corner we have a stable, tested release, containing
conservatively new and widely tested software still maintained by upstream
"Refereeing the match tonight is an elegant upgrade system, online support,
and countless volunteer maintainers looking to make their - and your - OS
the best they can...
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