RE: [SLUG] hrmm.. go Telstra

[Patrick Kelso <aragorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

<start my 2 cents>
        I agree totally with George, I went on a rampage at work one day 
and totally removed windows of my desktop as it was annoying me, figuring I 
could use imap to check my email, instead I find that no linux imap client 
i knew off supported Secure Password Authentication (SPA) which most 
companies will insist on for their exchange if they also use a windows NT 
domain controller. so it was back to using the web interface and netscrape 
to check my email, a manual process that is very inefficient, forcing me to 
resort back to windows as email is the main form of communication in my 
workplace.
        Exchange is a brilliant concept, probably microsofts only one, so 
live it up. Im sure that a viable linux alternative will show itself one 
day, and when it does maybe i can convince my boss to ditch the archaic 
windows network we have, but until linux gets more products like that, I 
might as well bang my head up against a wall for all its worth. I have 
embraced linux as far as I can, but to be truly free of windows, I need the 
applications & services I use, and so far exchange, is the only continuous 
stumble block. I have found viable alternatives to everything else (except 
maybe counter-strike)
<end my 2 cents>
Regards,
Patrick Kelso
<aragorn>
At 08:26 PM 23/08/2000 +1000, George Vieira muttered about;
> Yeah, I was hoping that evolution would bring out the best in email systems
> around. POP3/IMAP etc only go so far and that's why I like the way exchange
> works.
>
> Someone can send an email and by the time the use releases the enter key to
> send, the receiver receives it straight away. This is great as it creates
> little traffic and quick response compared to POP3 every 10 minutes just to
> see if you got any new mail and even then there may not be any.
> I was monitoring the syslogs from another site on the net and boy did I make
> a mistake. As the users first started getting on the new email system, the
> first thing most of them did was change the check interval from 10-15 to 1
> minute.
> Multiply that by 40 or so people and watch you 64kb ISDN start to light up.
>
> I killed that for a joke.
>
> The other beauty about exchange is how all mail sits on the server and I can
> login from anywhere and I mean anywhere and check my mail without POPing and
> making copies etc.. It is live and that's it.. I can delete an email on my
> laptop and that email on my desktop client will suddenly disappear. Keeping
> everything in sync.
> I can set up Offline folders and send emails, delete others, move things
> around and when I syncronise at work the server adjusts to all the changes..
>
> I really hope that Evolution does alot of these things coz' people like
> myself will also liek to put linux my the laptop but have all the good
> features too.
>
> Sorry if I caused any flaming and the OT exchange business but just to let
> you know what evolution is up against if they really really want to get it
> right.
>
>
> George.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thom May [mailto:thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 7:41 PM
> To: George Vieira
> Cc: 'John Wiltshire'; slug@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] hrmm.. go Telstra
>
>
> Hrrrm,
> Apparrently Evolution's Exchange support is getting there,
> slowly - they aim, AFAIK, to have it in the 1.0 release, so we
> may finally be able to stay with linux and still have all the
> lovely groupware crud that Marketing Slime love so much.
> just my £^H$0.02 <g>
> thom
>
> At some point around Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 04:54:36PM +1000, George Vieira
> spaketh thusly:
> > I'm the same.. I started with W98 here at work and then went to W2K and
> was
> > fine for a while and then the usual happened.... M$ products didn't work
> > with M$ products.
> >
> > So I tossed the whole thing and went to NT 4 WKS as I run it at home and
> > it's quite sweet. It's only because I need Outlook for Exchange server as
> I
> > haven't seen any Exchange Server support under Linux otherwise I would
> have
> > fully moved over.
> >
> > Oh, of course I have a 10GB linux partition when I have one of those days.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Wiltshire [mailto:jw@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:45 PM
> > To: slug@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [SLUG] hrmm.. go Telstra
> >
> >
> > From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:jobst@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >
> > >Points (proven):
> > >
> > > * I have yet to hear ONE SysAdmin who *LIKES* NT
> >
> > I'm an SysAdmin and I like NT.  I also like and use Linux.
> >
> > Some of my frien^H^H^H^H^H associates think I'm strange...
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > John Wiltshire
> >
> >
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Regards,
Patrick Kelso
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