- To: Stuart Cooper <scoopersyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Richard Neal <phlizard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, general slug chat <slug-chat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [chat] the 59 deceits of michael moore.
- From: James Ponza <jponza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:55:11 +1000
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Does anyone else find it interesting that, regardless of the content of the
movie, or the rightness or wrongness of Moore's position, there is more of an
uproar (in the mainstream media) over percieved lies in this piece of mass
marketing than there was over George W. Bush's marketing of the Iraq War?
So if Moore lies who does it hurt? And if George W. Bush lies who does THAT
hurt? I think there is quite a gulf between them (so to speak ;) One man's
lies have the power to kill thousands of people. Art (if we assume film is a
form of art) doesn't always have to represent absolute accuracy in its
portrayal - sometimes it's designed to just make people question and think
about things... as opposed to mass media, which is designed to stop people
from thinking or questioning. Both are probably factual to about the same
degree, but the difference is in their intent. Manipulation for personal gain
on the one hand, and manipulation to induce a desire to learn the truth on
the other.
On the other hand, I am hungover and can't remember how my sentences or even
thoughts began so if this makes no sense - you know why :P
On Tuesday 20 July 2004 10:32, Stuart Cooper wrote:
> > but Disney and
> > it's right wing Republican buddies were doing
> > everything to stop this
> > movie being seen by the American public..
>
> Ummm Disney told Mike Moore 12 months ago it
> wouldn't be distributing the film. Moore kicked
> up some crap story to get publicity
> and was caught out 24 hours later when people
> pointed out he'd known for a year what the
> distribution rights for the past year.
>
> Several right wing republicans have defended
> Moore's right to screen the film while
> at the same time vigorously debating it.
>
> If you want to cry censorship kindly provide
> an actual example. I can't see any example
> of Disney or right wingers trying to stop
> the movie being seen by Americans.
>
> > If Michael Moore used an Isreali right wing group to
> > distribute his
> > movie would you still be complaining.
>
> We've already established that he's not using
> Disney.
>
> Stuart.
>
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