SLUG Mailing List ArchivesSLUG Mailing List ArchivesDel wrote:
Crossfire wrote:Bleh. Better Idea. Don't use redhat.Bye guys, I've had enough of this.
Del,You beat me to the punch line. I have a concern that we are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. SLUG is by definitiion non-denominational (religous overtones intended) We need to refocus on supporting all linux people without fear or contradiction.
The lesson from the apple growers were that granny growers were trashing delicious apples and delicious growers were trashing granny apples. They realised that the real competition is chocolate bars not other apple growers. They now have a vibrant combined advertising campaign. OK Linux growers does it matter whether the seed is Mandrake, Redhat or Debian really.
I heard a comment recently that over the last twelve months RedHat had died out of the list and Debian has taken over. Does this mean that Redhat is dying out, I doubt it very much, it is the most well know distribution for newbies. I am sure our various vendors can confirm that there are a lot of RedHat distributions sold.
Politics is hard to control in any body and I beleive that we need to woo back the redhat support to keep SLUG from being an elitist debian club.
OK I have bitched here is what I propose, I recommend that we create a redhat list and a debian list. We search out the Redhat subscribers of old and invite them back onto the redhat list so that they can have a forum where it should be 'on the local lug'.
This does not perclude good natured ribbing between the parties, you must be extremely careful to use emoticons so that offense is not taken and we loose our bright support people. Now I listened to Del on Friday night and he was a very capable person and a proponent of Linux, we must work together, even if it means being apart on some issues.
Debian is far from perfect, it is twice as hard as redhat to set up. I still recommend redhat to all newbies. Sorry to disappoint but average Computer users do not read reams of documentation for fun. Debian you are forced to do so. I installed SUSE and it found the network card on my P100, I installed Redhat 5.x and it located my network card, I installed Debian Potato and it did not. The chip is on the mother board and was total guess work. I persisted how many newbies setting up old crap computers, to try linux out, will persist? How many will be told to look at ethernet howto and be promptly overwhelmed.
Thanks KenF